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Post by Argonaut on Jul 1, 2007 14:23:06 GMT -8
Hitman (2007)www.imdb.com/title/tt0465494/Well, the teaser for the Hitman movie adaptation is now out. I have only a limited experience playing the actual games they are based on, but I know Cobra is a fan, and I liked what I played somewhat. The movie stars Tim Olyphant, now known to me as the weak villain from the equally weak new Die Hard film that doesn't deserve it's title. Yeah, I won't get into a hissy fit about the ruining of a beloved franchise right now, and will instead focus on Olyphant as Agent 47. First off, when I found out Olyphant was playing Agent 47 instead of Vin Diesel, I was somewhat relieved. Vin Diesel was very good in one movie, Pitch Black, but besides that he hasn't impressed me. I am anticipating Babylon A.D. though. I don't think Vin Diesel is that bad of an actor really. He just stars in bad movies most of the time and doesn't play to his strengths as a potential R-movie badass, that he so well portrayed in Pitch Black. Anyway, back to Olyphant in Hitman. Does he measure up? I'm wondering. He seems a little too baby-faced to me. The first on set photos looked very bad, but the trailer does make him look much more natural as a bio-engineered hitman. He was bio-engineered in the games too, right? That's another problem with my opinion of this movie. I'm not well versed in the fandom of the Hitman games, so I leave it to Cobra or others to give an opinion. I do give him this though, at least he's not as overly buff as Vin Diesel is. Here is a link to an embedded dailymotion player with the teaser. www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=678&item=0And here is a youtube link. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHof14AjWN4You know, if I didn't know this was from a game, I'd actually be fairly impressed with how the teaser looks. EDIT: Hmm. I tried embedding a youtube version of it, but failed. Oh well. Cobra Edit/Review: ok... well I have a few things to say, The guy who played hitman DOES NOT FIT THE ROLE! AT ALL! And the director From what I saw has probably never played any of the games and if he has probably only part of Blood Money. I do like where the movie is set in, (Russia) But the role could of been PERFECT if they actually used the guy who hitman was modeled after and who did the voice not some American Speaking person with no accent at all. And another thing There is NO BLACK AGENTS! I dont care if they where forced to throw in a black guy or something but that confused the crap out of me, The "Clones" As they where called where either to old looking or to different looking. Also which is popular in the games is switching clothes to get away from people or sneak past people... (Only happened twice, None of which you saw him change clothes he just appeared in them) Thats all for now my score/final thought is below... Final score: A sad 2 out of 5. Could of been MUCH MUCH better, Don't even waist your time and money watching it in theaters. Download the thing once a good rip comes out.
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Post by Cobra on Jul 19, 2007 2:51:37 GMT -8
*Warning! Might be a spoiler to the game Hitman: Codename 47 below, If the movie is anything like the game it might be a spoiler to that also. But from what I have seen in the trailer it's nothing like any of the levels in the first game.*
He is Bio-Engineered in the game. He is the result of a cloning experiment that combined the genetic material of all four of his targets in the first game (Hitman: Codename 47) In hopes that through all there DNA there clone would become the ultimate killing machine.
I still believe that David Bateson should be the actor. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bateson) look up some pictures of him and you will see why I say it, Hitman is modeled after him and David does Hitmans voice on all the games!
I love how they used the Blood money music for the trailer! I hope Jesper Kyd does the music for the movie as well.
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Post by Argonaut on Jul 20, 2007 20:45:15 GMT -8
Yeah, I think I've heard some stuff about the guy. And from what I've heard, it seems ridiculous that they would choose anyone else to play Agent 47.
Jesper Kyd in trailer? Sweet! Yeah, he really oughta do it for the movie. I'll have to look it up sometime.
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Post by Argonaut on Aug 24, 2007 12:25:47 GMT -8
So a new Hitman movie trailer has been released. www.dailymotion.com/video/x2tmf0_hot_shortfilmsDespite the obvious bad choice made regarding casting of Agent 47, I gotta say I kind of liked that trailer. It seemed like it had real style and stood out from most trailers. The jury is still out though on whether the movie will actually turn out good, though. Here are some other movies I'm anticipating right now that could possibly be good. John Rambo(really really excited about that obviously) Indy 4(goes without saying for me too) Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem(I loved Alien 1-3, and Predator 1&2) Halloween(remake, I'm a John Carpenter fan) Death Sentence(This IS the next Death Wish movie) 3:10 to Yuma(Good actors, good story, and I like westerns) Beowulf(incredible motion-capture graphics, good director) Shoot Em' Up(huge homage to John Woo movies, which I love) In the Valley of Elah(Tommy Lee Jones is the shit, that's all) American Gangster(great actors and Ridley Scott directing) Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford(western) Into the Wild(I like the ideas, I identify with the story somewhat) The Darjeeling Limited(The Life Aquatic is amazing) Hitman(trailer looks good as I said, not sure yet though) 30 Days of Night(looks suspenseful, based on graphic novel) I am Legend(the book seems good, not sure about Will Smith) Stopping Power(John Cusack is really awesome) No Country for Old Men(Tommy Lee Jones) Southland Tales(interesting casting choices, Donnie Darko director) The Dark Knight(the first was good) The Mist(Stephen King, Tom Jane, Frank Darabont, good) Star Trek XI(HUGE, HUGE, Star Trek fan) National Treasure 2(first was somewhat good, I'll watch DVD) Cloverfield(A lotta buzz over this one, and I like monsters and LOST) Fanboys(bashes Trekkies, but I'm a Star Wars fan too you know) Jumper(Sam Jackson, Doug Liman, hot chick) Vantage Point(so many good actors and an awesome trailer) Babylon A.D.(could really suck or could be a decent VD movie) 10,000 B.C.(badass awesome trailer and a good lookin girl) 21(good actors and an interesting story) Wanted(Morgan Freeman and assassins and stuff) Iron Man(Robert Downey Jr.) The Incredible Hulk(looking much better than the other Hulk movie) Get Smart(I used to watch the old show, and Steve Carrel is good) Outlander(Vikings and aliens, sounds good to me) Sin City 2(whenever that comes out it's gonna rock) X-Files 2(Huge fan of X-Files also) Jurassic Park IV So those are the movies I'm looking forward to. Besides that nothing looks too interesting. Of course there's stuff coming out that when I find out about it I'll be interested in, but we'll see. And there's other movies that I hope come out but I'm not sure if they will, so I don't put them down. Recently I've been extremely disappointed by The Bourne Ultimatum and Live Free or Die Hard. Those movies both sucked. I really liked the first two Bournes and the first 3 Die Hards though. Sunshine wasn't quite as good as I was hoping for, but it had a lot of good points.
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Post by Argonaut on Aug 26, 2007 22:16:17 GMT -8
Oh man. Forgot all about My Name is Bruce. It's gonna be awesome for anybody who's a Bruce Campbell fan or an Evil Dead fan, as am I.
The AVP2 trailer is out and it's R-rated and already looking a million times better than the first one.
Anyway, this is really off topic from Hitman, but I guess it's still movies in general anyway.
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Post by Cobra on Aug 28, 2007 2:50:15 GMT -8
Awesome Thanks for the link to the new trailer now I cant wait to watch it even more =P
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Post by Argonaut on Aug 28, 2007 15:32:28 GMT -8
No problem. It's what I do.
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Post by Argonaut on Oct 10, 2007 19:47:36 GMT -8
Oh this is just fucking ridiculous. I can't stand it. www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=6143&count=0At least Live Free or Die Hard sucked for other reasons besides the pg-13ness. We need you John Rambo, you're my only hope. AVP2 doesn't count because it's looking less and less like an action film and more like a slasher with lots and lots of violence in it. And Shoot Em Up bombed at the box office, despite being an incredibly sweet movie. I still haven't seen all of it though, but I know from what I've seen and read of it that it's a definite buy. And mother of all sweetness they're making a sequel anyway. And as if my childhood nostalgia hasn't been raped enough already by Live Free or Die Hard... www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=6127&count=0OK, just when I'm beginning to come to terms with the fact that Shia Lebouf is in my beloved Indy franchise, I read this. If Indy passes the whip to Shia I'm gonna puke all over the guy in front of me. Indy is the man, and nobody can replace him or take over for him. It's just fucking stupid. So I'm still holding out on AVP2 and Star Trek. If John Rambo, Indy 4, AVP2, and Star Trek all suck, I'm probably commit hari kari. I'm pretty sure I'll like John Rambo, so I think I'll be OK, but seriously I'm starting to question whether sequels should be made, or even movies for that matter. It seems like there are less and less people everyday that can actually make good movies. But they're out there, so I'm still holding out hope.
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Post by Argonaut on Oct 11, 2007 18:27:06 GMT -8
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Post by Cobra on Oct 13, 2007 15:29:52 GMT -8
As long as they release an R rated uncut version of hitman I am fine. Because thats the one I am gunna wait for before I buy it.
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Post by Argonaut on Oct 15, 2007 15:09:43 GMT -8
Yeah, it sounds like that whole story was bogus. The guy they brought in is just there to advise, and the director is still on the project and it'll still be R. Cool.
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Post by Argonaut on Nov 9, 2007 19:07:04 GMT -8
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Post by Cobra on Nov 10, 2007 15:07:52 GMT -8
AWESOME! I love how he lands in that other room and the kids are playing hitman =P
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Post by Argonaut on Nov 10, 2007 18:13:59 GMT -8
Oh, ha ha! I didn't notice what they were playing. That's pretty sweet. I have to say, I didn't like Timothy Olyphant in Die Hard 4 that much, but he seems to have really become this Hitman role. I'm looking forward to this. It's got style and a subtle sense of humor to it.
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Post by Argonaut on Nov 15, 2007 12:25:48 GMT -8
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Post by Argonaut on Nov 21, 2007 10:24:06 GMT -8
Well, in case you're interested, here are two reviews for Hitman. The first one isn't so favorable, but the second rates it a bit higher. Most of the time I agree with either Roger Ebert or worstpreviews.com. I don't know how to add the quote tags so I'll just post the reviews after each link. www.worstpreviews.com/review.php?id=678§ion=review------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3/10 Theatrical Review: Gamers typically get all gooey when supposed console-less critics nitpick the big screen adaptation of their favorite platform title. It's part and parcel of the joystick jockey's mantle. Hitman, based on the popular series from Eidos Interactive, is the latest attempt to bring the PlayStation to the Cineplex. Begun in 2000, and with four gaming titles under its belt, players act as a hired assassin, working their way through various levels of intrigue and crazy, chaotic firefights. The purpose, clearly, is to slaughter everyone who's in your way. It's all bloodlust and cloying cat and mouse. Sadly, someone forgot to tell screenwriter Skip Woods about this. Instead, he's crafted something that plays like John Woo drained of all his slo-mo energy and drive. Even worse, it's then turned over to a director who further weakens the material's inherent excessiveness. For three years, a top Interpol agent (Dougray Scott) has been chasing an elusive, unknown assassin. When a Russian politician is murdered, the cop clearly suspects that Number 47 (Timothy Olyphant) has struck again. The paid killer is informed that a prostitute named Nika (Olga Kurylenko) witnessed the crime. He is ordered to take her out. Of course, it's all a setup. Belicoff (Ulrich Thomsen), the supposedly dead candidate, shows up for a speech, and the Russian Intelligence community is out rattling 47's cage. Our antihero saves Nika from a bullet, travels to Istanbul to interrogate Belicoff's drug running brother Udre (Henry Ian Cusik) and returns to the scene of the initial shooting to discover why he was framed. Turns out, it has more to do with one man's paranoia and ambitions than a simple contract hit -- and 47 is destined to play a part in it all. While it's not completely awful, Hitman is not very entertaining, either. It's all stodgy mythologizing and no ammunition magic. Part of the problem is its lack of genuine thrills. While one would think a little bullet ballet is mandatory as part of any take on the action genre, director Xavier Gens apparently see things differently. He gives all the material here -- the back story, the stunt set pieces, the sexual byplay, the impractical political intrigue -- the same static, stagnant tone. Instead of being blown away by 47's skills and smarts, we are constantly focusing on the lack of any viable cinematic flourishes. One could argue that Gens' limited skill behind the camera is the obvious reason for the film's lack of spectacle, but it's clear that Hitman takes itself too seriously to enjoy its ample arterial spray. And then there's lead Timothy Olyphant. Though pumped up to play the part, he appears too slight, too sleek to be a brutal mind of calculated destruction. He's more like a big kid playing dress-up than a realistic hired gun. Of course, all Gens allows him to do is glower and speak succinctly. Apparently, diction is quite terrifying: Naturally, the biggest sin the film commits is the offense of being tedious. Nothing original or fresh happens throughout the narrative. Most of the material feels swiped from better examples of the genre -- and Gens didn't steal the good bits. A train station chase has none of the snap we saw in The Bourne Ultimatum, and 47's sword fight with three other members of his order makes the blade work in Ultraviolet seem epic. With a confusing premise and an equally unfathomable conclusion, Hitman really misses the mark. It's more sullen than suspenseful, using blood and firepower as a replacement for atmosphere and pacing. In a year that's seen all manner of gun-toting extremes, from the ridiculously sublime Shoot 'Em Up to the sublimely ridiculous Smokin' Aces, it's clear that hyper-stylized ultra-violence can be presented in a highly effective and very entertaining manner. Somewhere along the line, Woods and Gens forgot this fact. They strove for something majestic, and produced mediocrity instead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071120/REVIEWS/711200303------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3/4 stars By Roger Ebert This may only be my quirky way of thinking, but if you wanted to move through the world as an invisible hit man responsible for more than 100 killings on six continents, would you shave your head to reveal the bar code tattooed on the back of your skull? Yeah, not me, either. But Agent 47 has great success with this disguise in "Hitman," which is a better movie than I thought it might be. Agent 47 (Timothy Olyphant) has no name because he was raised as an orphan from birth by a shadowy organization named the Agency, which is "known to all governments" and performs assassinations for hire. He was been trained in all the killing skills and none of the human ones, which is why the young woman Nika (Olga Kurylenko) is such a challenge for him. A prostitute held in slavery by the drug-dealing brother of the Russian president, she follows him, obeys him, offers herself to him and, although he remains distant, 47 cannot remain indifferent. Agent 47 is in Russia on a job: Assassinate Belicoff (Ulrich Thomsen), the president. This he thinks he does. Yet Belicoff appears in public almost immediately after the hit, alive and speaking. How did this happen? An Interpol agent named Mike (Dougray Scott) is just as puzzled: "My man doesn't miss." How it happens is not my business to tell you, but I will say that Agent 47 is betrayed by the Agency and finds himself being pursued by both Interpol and the Russian secret police. As he and Nika move from St. Petersburg to Moscow, there is one shoot-out after another, close escapes, daring leaps into the void, high-tech booby traps, and so on. The movie, directed by Xavier Gens, was inspired by a best-selling video game and serves as an excellent illustration of my conviction that video games will never become an art form -- never, at least, until they morph into something else or more. What I found intriguing about the movie was the lonely self-sufficiency of Agent 47, his life without a boyhood, his lack of a proper name, his single-purpose training. When Nika comes into his life, he is trained to guard against her, but he cannot, because she is helpless, needy, depends on him and is a victim like himself. So he takes her along (which only increases her danger) while not making love. You know what? I think he may be a virgin trained to make war, not love. To the degree the movie explores their relationship, it is absorbing. There is also intrigue at the highest levels of Russian politics, as the moderate Belikoff is apparently targeted for death. All of that is well done. Other scenes, which involve Agent 47 striding down corridors, an automatic weapon in each hand, shooting down opponents who come dressed as Jedi troopers in black. These scenes are no doubt from the video game. The troopers spring into sight, pop up and start shooting, and he has target practice. He also jumps out of windows without knowing where he's going to land, and that feels like he's cashing in a chip he won earlier in the game. If you want to see what Agent 47 might have seemed like without the obligatory video game requirements, I urge you to rent Jean-Pierre Melville's "Le Samourai" (1967), which is about a lone-wolf assassin in Paris (Alain Delon). He too works alone, is a professional, cuts off his emotions, seems lonely and cold. But the movie is about him, not his killing score. The key producer on "Hitman" was Adrian Askarieh, who told Variety he doesn't consult or collaborate with the makers of a video game he has purchased for filming, but focuses on the characters and situation. Wise. To the degree he doesn't try to reproduce the aim-and-shoot material, he has a movie here. To the degree Olyphant and Kurylenko can flesh out their characters, they do. The movie is rated R, despite reports that the studio demanded edits to trim down the violence. It has a high body count but very little blood and gore. I wish it had less. It's the people we care about in movies, not how many dead bodies they can stack up. "Hitman" stands right on the threshold between video games and art. On the wrong side of the threshold, but still, give it credit. Meville's "Le Samourai" is reviewed in the Great Movies section at rogerebert.com.
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Post by Cobra on Nov 22, 2007 20:23:02 GMT -8
gunna go see this in an hour i will report back later
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Post by Argonaut on Nov 23, 2007 17:04:51 GMT -8
K. I'll be interested to hear what you think of it.
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Post by Cobra on Nov 24, 2007 12:58:10 GMT -8
ok... well I have a few things to say, The guy who played hitman DOES NOT FIT THE ROLE! AT ALL! And the director From what I saw has probably never played any of the games and if he has probably only part of Blood Money. I do like where the movie is set in, (Russia) But the role could of been PERFECT if they actually used the guy who hitman was modeled after and who did the voice not some American Speaking person with no accent at all. And another thing There is NO BLACK AGENTS! I dont care if they where forced to throw in a black guy or something but that confused the crap out of me, The "Clones" As they where called where either to old looking or to different looking. Also which is popular in the games is switching clothes to get away from people or sneak past people... (Only happened twice, None of which you saw him change clothes he just appeared in them) Thats all for now my score/final thought is below...
Final score: A sad 2 out of 5. Could of been MUCH MUCH better, Don't even waist your time and money watching it in theaters. Download the thing once a good rip comes out.
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Post by Argonaut on Nov 24, 2007 17:56:13 GMT -8
Yeah, too bad about that. I don't know why they always screw up video-game movies. This is why I should go into directing soon. I still think I could make awesome movies for Doom, Far Cry, and Monkey Island. Of course Doom's already been made, and Uwe Boll got his greedy hands on Far Cry. Doom turned into actually one of the better video game adaptations, it was fairly entertaining on a fun gory B-movie level, but it could have been(as you said about Hitman) so MUCH MUCH better. Far Cry is a goner. Uwe Boll is Satan. Monkey Island has already been ripped off with the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Everyone who has never heard of the Monkey Island games will think a movie is ripping off the Pirates movies, which really aren't that good. First one was OK.
Yeah I can't believe they didn't use the guy who voices the games. It boggles my mind how often video-game movies are screwed up. I mean, I'm not even an avid player of the games, but I could have made a better movie probably. I would research what I'm adapting and make better choices. Timothy Olyphant may be a decent actor, but you're right, he really doesn't cut it as Agent 47.
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Post by Cobra on Dec 21, 2007 5:48:16 GMT -8
Ok, so here is what I was told by evan I belive: That Olyphant admited in an interview he has never heard of the game Hitman nor has ever played Hitman he was only acting as he was told to act. Piece of Crap. Thats what I think of the director probably some rich japanese retard wanted to make a movie and made a piece of crap instead.
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Post by Argonaut on Dec 21, 2007 17:49:56 GMT -8
That sucks. Hollywood is so full of hacks today.
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Post by Cobra on Dec 21, 2007 19:22:15 GMT -8
yeah I know, Hey you have 99 posts =O one more and you will have 100!
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Post by Argonaut on Dec 22, 2007 14:02:07 GMT -8
Oh, sweet. I was trying to get my brother to post more, and he said we needed another section for Survival stuff/guns/knives, cuz that's mostly what he's into. I told him to just post in general if he wanted. Anyways, it's an idea. I'm not sure if we should start a new section for every member that joins. EDIT: Haha, 100 posts.
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Post by Cobra on Dec 23, 2007 10:53:15 GMT -8
Just have him post it in the general, its cool. I am sure we could find a lot of stuff to post about to do with survival and guns lol.
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Post by Argonaut on Dec 23, 2007 20:17:46 GMT -8
K, sounds good.
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Post by Cobra on Feb 16, 2008 5:53:29 GMT -8
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